Curse

Taurucis · Jan 14, 2007, 06:38 PM // 18:38

Everyone knows the "If you aren't r6+ you're a noob" Hero's Ascent players. What I am wondering is, what starts it? I understand that they want to win, but why do they have to be so snobbish about it? Why do they stuff their deers/wolves/tigers in your face and laugh at you? Do they know that every player is a real person, and has real feelings as well?

There's this person I see quite often in Marhan's. He once joined a FoW team I was in, and aggro'd every monster on the map and drew them back to the party. During our short time there, he would constantly beat up on our warriors and harass one of our elementalists. And if anyone tried to argue, he would display his tiger emote and tell them to shut up.

Later I went to Marhan's and asked if that person was there. He was. After a short while talking.. I mean arguing.. with him, I eventually concluded that he was the kind of player who would drive you insane just for fun, and then pull rank on you. Why do people act like jerks for no reason?

I also noticed that anyone who discusses feelings is branded "emo" or "whiny crybaby" or "pathetic." What is wrong with emotions? If you are incredibly stressed and angry, is there anything wrong about kindly explaining the reason for a hot-tempered outburst?

Finally, I notice a lot of "girly girls" in Guild Wars. They're surrounded by friends, and the only things they know how to say seem to be "but i'm hawt!" "

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" "T_T" and they're incredibly annoying. It could be that they're role-playing, but then again, I don't know of anyone who role-plays in Guild Wars. They are almost always female elementalists in the skimpiest armor known to Guild Wars. Amazingly, most of them have a rank emote. How do people like these get any friends? If the GW community is bent on only befriending the best, how did these annoying people get their rank emotes?

Sekkira · Jan 14, 2007, 06:44 PM // 18:44

Anonymous does not forgive.

Also, I like using T_T a lot. + I wont deny I'm male.

Malice Black · Jan 14, 2007, 06:57 PM // 18:57

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There's this person I see quite often in Marhan's. He once joined a FoW team I was in, and aggro'd every monster on the map and drew them back to the party. During our short time there, he would constantly beat up on our warriors and harass one of our elementalists. And if anyone tried to argue, he would display his tiger emote and tell them to shut up.

Speculation would suggest someone that has used fame farming or has bought the account.

killer toast · Jan 14, 2007, 07:00 PM // 19:00

that my friend is what we call a "leet player" since he has his r9 he is allowed to yell at lower ranks and curse out anyone he wants that is below his rank once you get r9 you automatically become better then half of the guild wars population. Noob

SPIRIT OF THE SEA · Jan 14, 2007, 07:01 PM // 19:01

Same adzact kind of thing happens to me often. I happen to be only r2 and pretty close to r3. The problem why its taking so long is that all the good groups that do good req high ranks such as 7+ 9+ 12+ (>_<) and i wonder how did they get such high ranks if they were low ranks too. Well when i asked in HA they all said "stfu emo dumb ass we 1337 we have high ranks you dont so go suck my dick". Now i got pissed and told this at a gaile gray meeting. No response. Probally because its un-fixable considering you cant change someones mind if their stuck up retards
Now i bet some r9 peson or some r7 peson is reading this now and saying quit complaing and suck it up

Definite Integral · Jan 14, 2007, 07:03 PM // 19:03

IMO people who discriminate based on rank should be banned. Rank means nothing. People who buy high ranked accounts should also be banned permanently. It's against the EULA.

As for this idiot, I have seen him and he has said many things that should be censored. If the put a Gamemaster or similar in marhan's grotto this annoying player would be banned ages ago.

I know exactly who Taurucis is referring to(she told me in game) and the offending player was definitely in violation of the Rules of Conduct.

@Spirt of the sea:I'm rank 2 and have 65 fame to go to get r3. I was in HA and looked for a group, one kicked me because i wasn't rank 3. So I made my own group and got 1 fame. Also, PLEASE DO NOT DOUBLE POST

On a side note, I believe this rank elitism is what makes the American Heroes Ascent player base look like it's throwing Dancing Daggers into its own feet.(crippling itself) Maybe if everyone would relax, and give some newbies a chance, America would actually win favor.

Why don't they just take out the ability to show your rank. Any idiot knows that that's the solution. Make high ranked guilds guess at your rank XD.

Taurucis · Jan 14, 2007, 07:03 PM // 19:03

Eh.. I forgot to mention. The jerk I spoke about was aggro'ing on purpose, not by accident. He'd look for the choicest mobs and draw them back, saying "Ha ha, scrubs."

LordFFM · Jan 14, 2007, 07:16 PM // 19:16

I'm not interested in HA, but it is still fun to see these 1337 players spam their emote before dying 10 seconds later in RA, or even in a NF mission they were running "master only - no noob"...

You can't do anything against stupidity... Don't let them ruin YOUR game.

Swamprob · Jan 14, 2007, 07:19 PM // 19:19

I've never seen a PvP game that did not have some of this kind of elitism.
"My pixels can dominate your pixels, therefore, I am better than you". Nothing wrong with having fun in a game, but come on, have a little perspective. Geez.

Savio · Jan 14, 2007, 07:20 PM // 19:20

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Originally Posted by Taurucis

Everyone knows the "If you aren't r6+ you're a noob" Hero's Ascent players. What I am wondering is, what starts it? I understand that they want to win, but why do they have to be so snobbish about it? Why do they stuff their deers/wolves/tigers in your face and laugh at you? Do they know that every player is a real person, and has real feelings as well?

I also noticed that anyone who discusses feelings is branded "emo" or "whiny crybaby" or "pathetic." What is wrong with emotions? If you are incredibly stressed and angry, is there anything wrong about kindly explaining the reason for a hot-tempered outburst?

The Internet is not known for its compassion and attention to emotions, except for MySpace. People who don't know you typically don't care about your feelings.

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There's this person I see quite often in Marhan's. He once joined a FoW team I was in

Stop joining PUGs.

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Finally, I notice a lot of "girly girls" in Guild Wars. They're surrounded by friends, and the only things they know how to say seem to be "but i'm hawt!" "

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" "T_T" and they're incredibly annoying.

Stop hanging out in Grotto, and anybody claiming to be a girl on the Internet is a guy. Having a female character does not automatically make the person playing it female.

If you purposefully hang out with the wrong type of crowd, who are you to complain about said crowd?

Taurucis · Jan 14, 2007, 07:25 PM // 19:25

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Originally Posted by Savio

Stop joining PUGs.

And how, may I ask, do you explore FoW with a dead guild, a dead alliance, and only 2 good friends who are almost always busy?

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Originally Posted by Savio

Stop hanging out in Grotto, and anybody claiming to be a girl on the Internet is a guy. Having a female character does not automatically make the person playing it female.

If you purposefully hang out with the wrong type of crowd, who are you to complain about said crowd?

Despite popular belief, there are actually some girls on the Internet. Do you think I purposefully hang out with jerks? I go to Grotto to chat with the friendly people, and unfortunately there are also idiots there as well. If I was hanging out with jerks on purpose, I wouldn't be posting this, would I?

killer toast · Jan 14, 2007, 07:32 PM // 19:32

well those friendly people you could invite to a guild or join there guild and then start to do fow runs with them and then you would be solving 2 of your problems

Definite Integral · Jan 14, 2007, 07:38 PM // 19:38

Joining a guild for HA isn't as easy as you think. What if they want r6+ players only? What if they say "You must come HA at least twice a day or you are kicked" I joined Taurucis' guild for a reason: it is a FUN guild. There are no rules except "dont say anything inappropriate and dont be a jerk." I find FHSR to be an excellent guild for PVE and if I make my own guild I will continue on the tradition.

@Arkantos
Taurucis is the guild leader of FHSR. Why do you want her to give up her guild?

Arkantos · Jan 14, 2007, 07:38 PM // 19:38

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Originally Posted by Taurucis

And how, may I ask, do you explore FoW with a dead guild, a dead alliance, and only 2 good friends who are almost always busy?

Get a new guild?

Savio · Jan 14, 2007, 07:49 PM // 19:49

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Originally Posted by Taurucis

And how, may I ask, do you explore FoW with a dead guild, a dead alliance, and only 2 good friends who are almost always busy?

I'd learn to make more friends and join/create a more active guild.

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Despite popular belief, there are actually some girls on the Internet.

Yes, but the majority of people playing female Eles are guys who like to have pretty characters to look at.

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Do you think I purposefully hang out with jerks? I go to Grotto to chat with the friendly people, and unfortunately there are also idiots there as well.

So you go to a place where you know idiots reside. I'm fairly certain there are more places to go than just Marhan's Grotto.

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Originally Posted by Definite Integral

Joining a guild for HA isn't as easy as you think.

1. Join PUGs you know to have decent people, i.e. people on #gwp.
2. IMPORTANT: Make friends. (If you can't learn how to make new friends, you're going to have a crappy time anywhere, not just in Guild Wars! *I* am antisocial and I have more than 2 friends!)
3. Make groups with friends (you did make new friends, right?) and see if those friends have any friends.
4. Once you've got a regular group going, see if they're interested in forming a guild.

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@Arkantos
Taurucis is the guild leader of FHSR. Why do you want her to give up her guild?

IF Taurucis wants to hang onto an inactive guild and alliance, that's their choice, but if they make that choice then they don't have much of a reason to complain. To me, being part of a good guild is far more important that staying leader of a dead one.

Definite Integral · Jan 14, 2007, 07:59 PM // 19:59

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Originally Posted by Savio

I'd learn to make more friends and join/create a more active guild.

Yes, but the majority of people playing female Eles are guys who like to have pretty characters to look at.

So you go to a place where you know idiots reside. I'm fairly certain there are more places to go than just Marhan's Grotto.

1. Join PUGs you know to have decent people, i.e. people on #gwp.
2. IMPORTANT: Make friends. (If you can't learn how to make new friends, you're going to have a crappy time anywhere, not just in Guild Wars! *I* am antisocial and I have more than 2 friends!)
3. Make groups with friends (you did make new friends, right?) and see if those friends have any friends.
4. Once you've got a regular group going, see if they're interested in forming a guild.

IF Taurucis wants to hang onto an inactive guild and alliance, that's their choice, but if they make that choice then they don't have much of a reason to complain. To me, being part of a good guild is far more important that staying leader of a dead one.

Second statement you made is incorrect. Female eles are incredibly ugly. Let's all go stare at Glint or Kuunavang.

Deleet · Jan 14, 2007, 09:03 PM // 21:03

I was about to rage here, thanks Savio for making the day easier.

I'll give you one logical statement, easy to understand.

1. Ranked = Experianced.
2. People (generally) learn from experience.
3. Ergo, a ranked player is probably a better player than an unranked. (notice that it's not definite.)

1. My team wants to win.
2. Good players kill bad players.
3. Ergo i need good players.

Easy as pie.

lyra_song · Jan 14, 2007, 09:05 PM // 21:05

Once an idiot, always an idiot, being a high rank had nothing to do with it.

yeah_hi · Jan 14, 2007, 10:38 PM // 22:38

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Originally Posted by Definite Integral

On a side note, I believe this rank elitism is what makes the American Heroes Ascent player base look like it's throwing Dancing Daggers into its own feet.(crippling itself) Maybe if everyone would relax, and give some newbies a chance, America would actually win favor.

Is the Euro HA player base any better, in terms of elitist behaviour, or acceptance towards newbies/unranked?

Geniunely curious.

llsektorll · Jan 14, 2007, 11:01 PM // 23:01

Taurucis i honestly thought you were one EMO kid... then you said you were not then I thought you are probably just a girl... turns out you are... here is one good advice to excel.. GET RIGHT FRIENDS...
although it may not seem like it your friends in the game are mostly the ones that hold you down... most HA people are their because they sacrifice friendship to excel because not all of your friends are good and if they are not they should be kicked... Friends come and go...

Being a girl gives you an edge.. you can get into groups just act cute and be decent... if you want into good guilds be like can i join and act girly in vent and get into top 50 guilds then HA with them sometimes problem solved

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Your question about why they rank you and call you noob was not always the case... early in the game everyone was proud of their rank but not going around offending others. Many reached high rank at end of summer of 2005 but the rank 0 PvE FoW armor noob warriors got jelous of those guys and started running the easiest gimmick build called IWAY ... many months after they got their rank9 they like to show it off to others and make noobs feel bad and make themselves feel proud that they iwayed their fame...

all these hurt feelings and stuff you talk about do not exist... because this game is made up of guys... and unlike many girls they could give a F!@# if you suck if you do then dont play atleast that is their policy... i hate to be Darwinistic but thats the truth... Guys have a different take on skill and less room for the ones lacking behind.

But I hope everything works out.